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May 20, 2021

Host Gail Ferguson Jones speaks with her friend Nick SantFoster, who found personal recovery through Al-Anon 33 years ago, after recognizing a pattern of dysfunctional relationships in his life.

Nick is a retired professional photographer and visual artist who has developed an anthology of affirmations and quotations, titled "Recovering Wisdom." He says the collection of 365 days of wisdom is a tool for recovery.

Gail Ferguson Jones is an award-winning journalist, speaker, podcaster and certified peer recovery coach who works with the loved ones of those struggling with alcohol and drug addictions. 

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