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Sep 3, 2020

Host Gail Ferguson Jones speaks with Author, Speaker and Consultant Lisa Frederiksen about secondhand drinking, a term she coined to describe the effects of alcohol use on loved ones.

Frederiksen has spent 16 years researching substance abuse and mental health disorders. She has written 12 books, including her latest, the 10 Anniversary Edition of "If You Loved Me, You'd Stop! What you really need to know when your loved one drinks too much."

Frederiksen can be reached for speaking or consulting at or by email at

The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) offers information on treatment at

Gail Ferguson Jones is an award-winning journalist, speaker and certified family recovery coach. Her Buttrfly Effect program offers peer-to-peer coaching specializing in recovery from codependency.

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